Comments on: Ivory-billed Woodpecker or bust http://www.radleyice.com/2010/01/ivory-billed-woodpecker-or-bust/ Sun, 05 Feb 2012 00:24:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Kate http://www.radleyice.com/2010/01/ivory-billed-woodpecker-or-bust/comment-page-1/#comment-1359 Kate Sat, 26 Mar 2011 17:25:26 +0000 http://www.radleyice.com/2010/01/ivory-billed-woodpecker-or-bust/#comment-1359 Marc/2011 - Is there an update and/or confirmation by the Ornithological community of the Daniel Rainsong Ivory-billed woodpecker photo's taken near the Sabine River, Dec. 29, 2009? Marc/2011 – Is there an update and/or confirmation by the Ornithological community of the Daniel Rainsong Ivory-billed woodpecker photo’s taken near the Sabine River, Dec. 29, 2009?

]]> By: Chris West http://www.radleyice.com/2010/01/ivory-billed-woodpecker-or-bust/comment-page-1/#comment-1224 Chris West Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:20:44 +0000 http://www.radleyice.com/2010/01/ivory-billed-woodpecker-or-bust/#comment-1224 Just FYI everyone, a simple google search reveals all: Project Indigo is about providing a safe house for homeless children. Daniel Rainsong is known as "The Wizard of Odds" Rita Goldstein works for Brookhaven National Laboratory as a Neuro-imaging scientist. So, in other words, the whole thing is a joke, put on by someone who needs their view of a joke straightened out. I suspect whoever it was is a birder since you'd have to go through a hell of a lot of trouble to make sure all those facts were right......... I checked. Everything there is correct except the part about the IBWO of course. If it's not a joke: #1. I want to see the photos. They should def be of a bird in flight. #2. I want to hear the backing of Dr Remsen, Dr Jackson and Cornell on this. #3. It'd be nice to hear more about this guy's background. Both backgrounds actually. Finder and writer both. #4. why the heck is this guy afraid someone is going to steal his glory in re-finding the bird??? Good grief. I don't recall hearing about anyone taking credit for finding anything if they didn't truly find it. That's first US records too. Easy to see through stuff like that. Can we just see the photos?? Let us decide. Geez...... I hear this guy is *Driving* to different places to show people his photos. This could take forever. Send them by email. One email. Addressed to Kaufman, Sibley, Remsen, Jackson, Dinsmore and Fitzgerald. Bingo. Answer tomorrow. Gah. w/e. Rant over. lol Just FYI everyone, a simple google search reveals all:

Project Indigo is about providing a safe house for homeless children.

Daniel Rainsong is known as “The Wizard of Odds”

Rita Goldstein works for Brookhaven National Laboratory as a Neuro-imaging scientist.

So, in other words, the whole thing is a joke, put on by someone who needs their view of a joke straightened out.

I suspect whoever it was is a birder since you’d have to go through a hell of a lot of trouble to make sure all those facts were right……… I checked. Everything there is correct except the part about the IBWO of course.

If it’s not a joke:
#1. I want to see the photos. They should def be of a bird in flight.

#2. I want to hear the backing of Dr Remsen, Dr Jackson and Cornell on this.

#3. It’d be nice to hear more about this guy’s background. Both backgrounds actually. Finder and writer both.

#4. why the heck is this guy afraid someone is going to steal his glory in re-finding the bird??? Good grief.
I don’t recall hearing about anyone taking credit for finding anything if they didn’t truly find it. That’s first US records too. Easy to see through stuff like that.
Can we just see the photos?? Let us decide. Geez……

I hear this guy is *Driving* to different places to show people his photos. This could take forever. Send them by email. One email. Addressed to Kaufman, Sibley, Remsen, Jackson, Dinsmore and Fitzgerald. Bingo. Answer tomorrow. Gah.
w/e. Rant over. lol

]]> By: Matt Mendenhall http://www.radleyice.com/2010/01/ivory-billed-woodpecker-or-bust/comment-page-1/#comment-1223 Matt Mendenhall Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:43:10 +0000 http://www.radleyice.com/2010/01/ivory-billed-woodpecker-or-bust/#comment-1223 I spoke with Van Remsen and Jerry Jackson, and neither has seen the photos. You can read more on BirdersWorld.com: http://bit.ly/8tthmC I spoke with Van Remsen and Jerry Jackson, and neither has seen the photos. You can read more on BirdersWorld.com: http://bit.ly/8tthmC

]]> By: Radd Icenoggle http://www.radleyice.com/2010/01/ivory-billed-woodpecker-or-bust/comment-page-1/#comment-1222 Radd Icenoggle Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:34:38 +0000 http://www.radleyice.com/2010/01/ivory-billed-woodpecker-or-bust/#comment-1222 Joe, I do hope that your press release was more of a awkwardness of timing than anything. As I think back to any other press releases about rare, rediscovered or just described by science species, the evidence is first sent to and reviewed by experts in the respective field, and then a press release is generated to inform the public. In this particular case it seems to be bass ackwards of the normal protocol. I have also never heard of "right of discovery". If it is an Ivory-billed Woodpecker, then I am sure the credit would be properly given. This breach of normal procedure and lack of apparent background is why I find the press release "obtuse". Also, can you shed any light on any of the experts initial impressions, if any? Is there any firm date on the potential release of the images? Joe,
I do hope that your press release was more of a awkwardness of timing than anything. As I think back to any other press releases about rare, rediscovered or just described by science species, the evidence is first sent to and reviewed by experts in the respective field, and then a press release is generated to inform the public. In this particular case it seems to be bass ackwards of the normal protocol. I have also never heard of “right of discovery”. If it is an Ivory-billed Woodpecker, then I am sure the credit would be properly given. This breach of normal procedure and lack of apparent background is why I find the press release “obtuse”.

Also, can you shed any light on any of the experts initial impressions, if any? Is there any firm date on the potential release of the images?

]]> By: Joe Hepperle http://www.radleyice.com/2010/01/ivory-billed-woodpecker-or-bust/comment-page-1/#comment-1219 Joe Hepperle Fri, 22 Jan 2010 09:45:41 +0000 http://www.radleyice.com/2010/01/ivory-billed-woodpecker-or-bust/#comment-1219 Yes, I do. Yes, They have. Yes, They are. (With the possible exception of Jackson, who as of the mid-morning of yesterday (Jan 21) has not acknowledged to Rainsong that he even received the communication.) By the way, I wrote the 'obtuse' press-release to which you refer. Obtuse? Hmmmm. Maybe. The press-release was not written as the "official" notice to the world. That will come after confirmation of the contents of the pictures. That process will be taking place over the next week or so (my uneducatd guess). The press release was simply to establish a claim and a date. I did not 'discover' the bird, and I was not a member of the search project. Why on Earth would he release the pictures before they have been examined by prominent individuals in the field of Ornithology? Right. Of course, if a two-headed genetic cross between a man and a parakeet was photographed, it would be released to the National Enquirer immediately. But this ain't that. Joe Hepperle Yes, I do.
Yes, They have.
Yes, They are. (With the possible exception of Jackson, who as of the mid-morning of yesterday (Jan 21) has not acknowledged to Rainsong that he even received the communication.)

By the way, I wrote the ‘obtuse’ press-release to which you refer. Obtuse? Hmmmm. Maybe. The press-release was not written as the “official” notice to the world. That will come after confirmation of the contents of the pictures. That process will be taking place over the next week or so (my uneducatd guess). The press release was simply to establish a claim and a date. I did not ‘discover’ the bird, and I was not a member of the search project.

Why on Earth would he release the pictures before they have been examined by prominent individuals in the field of Ornithology? Right. Of course, if a two-headed genetic cross between a man and a parakeet was photographed, it would be released to the National Enquirer immediately. But this ain’t that.
Joe Hepperle

]]> By: cyberthrush http://www.radleyice.com/2010/01/ivory-billed-woodpecker-or-bust/comment-page-1/#comment-1218 cyberthrush Fri, 22 Jan 2010 06:11:20 +0000 http://www.radleyice.com/2010/01/ivory-billed-woodpecker-or-bust/#comment-1218 I've collected enough info by now on this story (which I can't publicly disclose) to conclude unfortunately it is almost certainly a full-fledged hoax (and a poor one at that). I’ve collected enough info by now on this story (which I can’t publicly disclose) to conclude unfortunately it is almost certainly a full-fledged hoax (and a poor one at that).

]]> By: Radd Icenoggle http://www.radleyice.com/2010/01/ivory-billed-woodpecker-or-bust/comment-page-1/#comment-1217 Radd Icenoggle Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:43:54 +0000 http://www.radleyice.com/2010/01/ivory-billed-woodpecker-or-bust/#comment-1217 Great question...does anyone have this information? Great question…does anyone have this information?

]]> By: Dave Magpiong http://www.radleyice.com/2010/01/ivory-billed-woodpecker-or-bust/comment-page-1/#comment-1216 Dave Magpiong Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:41:52 +0000 http://www.radleyice.com/2010/01/ivory-billed-woodpecker-or-bust/#comment-1216 It would be beyond wonderful to have his claim confirmed. I'm curious if anyone has contacted Van Remsen, Jackson, or the other noted ornithologist to see if they have ANY Awareness that their names are connected with this "press release". It would be beyond wonderful to have his claim confirmed. I’m curious if anyone has contacted Van Remsen, Jackson, or the other noted ornithologist to see if they have ANY Awareness that their names are connected with this “press release”.

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